ofhe obama plan. lawmakers involved actj won't be easy to pass. >> the morn people don't stand up to the lies that are being said that we can't do anything about gun violence, who loses? >> columbine, virginia tech, aurora, tucson, oak creek. the common thread in these shootings is each gunman used a semiautomatic assault weapon or large capacity ammunition magazine. >> will it be hard? for sure. we owe it to our constituents and our country to try. >> feinstein's bill doesn't just ban assault weapons. it bans magazines that hold more than ten rounds, something the vice president focused on in a google chat. >> i am much less concerned, quite frankly, about what you would call an assault weapon

than i am about magazines and the number of rounds that can be held in a magazine. >> i want to bring in "usa today's" washington bureau chief susan paige and the huffington post washington bureau chief ryan grim. >> the national mood has changed if you look at the polls. 53% of people have a favorable view of the president's plan. look at the numbers when you take each piece individually. 91% support background checks. 82% more for mental health. all the way down to 60% who favor a ban on assault weapons. how crucial will the obama administration's event, like the one we're going to see today, be to getting something passed legislatively. this whole big pr push they have going on? >> one thing that struck me when we heard senator feinstein read that litany of places that have seen terrible shooting rampages is that one thing that is different this time is that there is at least a big debate going on about it in washington

that has engaged the president. it's been a decade since that has happened in response tho to these shooting incidents and tragedies. so that's different. what isn't different is that as we heard senator schumer and others acknowledge, a very hard road to go to get actual legislation passed here. now i think more likely that we would see something like universal background checks or this gun trafficking measure that's going to be introduced by senator gillibrand and others, senator kirk in the next few days. hard to see senator feinstein's bill actually being enacted. and yet it is clearly true there is something different going on this time than in past incidents. >> yeah, to your point. dianne feinstein said it will be hard but you see people like joe manchin willing to work on some things. he's a touchstone for a lot of democrats who look to people who are supporters of gun rights. i'm wontderring when you have the people who do push back on

certain parts of it and that does include joe manchin and people like harry reid who basically has said he's not superulatively supportive of the president's plan. let's put it that way. i'm wondering, ryan is this because they live in those gun states, they fear the nra? tell us about the difficulties of getting some people like harry reid on board. >> right. it's because they understand the politics of guns. the problem for gun control advocates has never been broad popularity. a majority of people generally support gun control. they support an assault weapons ban. you showed those polls. there's broad support for these kinds of things. the problem isn't intensity. people who support an assault weapons ban don't -- in the past have not voted on their support of an assault weapons ban. you know, they would say that, yes, given the choice between having a ban and not having one, i prefer to have one.

but candidates know it's not going to cost them which way they go. however, people who oppose an assault weapons ban or support, you know, all of these bevy of gun rights, a lot of those people do vote. even if it's a vanishingly small part of the electorate that is passionate about this, if it actually moves votes, then for somebody like manchin or reid who reid keeps winning by 1,000, 2,000 votes you can't afford to lose a couple thousand. and so that -- that's the politics that drives this. >> yeah. people forget that harry reid almost didn't win re-election. >> they need to change the intensity to get people who support gun control to actually start voting, to have them care enough about it that they will actually vote on it. >> considering joe biden, susan, has been leading the charge on gun control, i want to play one more clip from his google chat. he was asked if an assault

weapons ban would -- >> a shotgun will keep you a lot safer. a double barrel shotgun than the assault weapons in somebody's hands who doesn't know how to use it. even one who does know how to use it. you know. it's harder to use an assault weapon and hit something than it is a shotgun. you want to keep people away in an earthquake, buy some shotgun shells. >> this seems to be part of the strategy. sort of common sense. also things like we've heard supporters say you don't need an assault rifle to shoot a duck. you need 30 shots from a magazine to kill a deer you probably shouldn't be out there hunting. what's the messaging and how important is the messaging? >> the messaging is important and we certainly see vice president biden out there. and the president, too. the white house says the president will be making speeches doing some trips that relate to this measure but the same intensity argument for voters, that exists for the white house as well. what priority will the white

house put gun control in the list of things they want to do. the president talked a lot about climate change in his inaugural address. will he try to put a lot of his political capital -- this time he promised immigration reform. high expectations that he'll do that and these fiscal debates that will dominate the next three months of this year. so i think the messaging is important but there's going to be a hard, cold, political calculation that will be made at some point about where the white house and the democrats will put their power. put their political capital. and it's not clear to me that that's going to end up being on guns. >> i want to bring in independent senator bernie sanders to talk more about that. as she said, senator, and welcome to you, gun control just one of many issues congress is going to have to deal with. debt ceiling debate now postponed until may. the sequestering, the continuing resolution. and republicans are pushing for changes in entitlements. is this in large part about

where the white house decides where to put its political capital? >> kwlourks know what, we have also forgotten in this discussion, we remain in the midst of a terrible, terrible recession. counting people who have given up looking for work and underemployed. we are looking at -- almost 15% of our population who is unemployed, who don't have jobs. real wages for millions of workers are going down. the gap between the very, very wealthy and everybody else is growing wider. so what concerns me is, yeah, you have to deal with gun control. deal with a lot of other issues, but we cannot -- we cannot forget the reality that tens and tens of millions of working people are really hurting. >> how would you prioritize then again if you have to figure out where you're going to put your political capital? how would you prioritize. there was a big headline today the stock market is at a five-year high, unemployment at a five-year low. those headlines make people

think -- >> that's right. unemployment may be at a five-year low because five years ago we're losing 700,000 jobs a month. if you count people who have given up looking for work and people are working part time, almost 15% of our population is unemployed. that is a disaster. you can't push that aside. real median family income is going down. so the economy has got to be at the very, very top. second of all in my view, when scientists tell us that if we don't get a handle on global warming, the planet may warm by eight degrees by the end of the century with devastating consequences, of course we have to move away from fossil fuel in a dramatic way. transform our energy system. by the way, we can create jobs doing that. right now our republican friends, when you talk about want to do entilement reform, it's not entitlement reform. let's be clear. it's massive cuts in social security, medicare, veterans

programs, medicaid. >> you know their argument is that you can't just raise taxes. you have to, at some point, you have to get your fiscal house in order and that means cuts to some of these entitlement programs. >> no it does not. when you talk about getting your fiscal house in order, that's correct, but our republican friends forget to mention that at 15.8%, revenue compared to gdp, that is the lowest percentage in 60 years. when clinton gave us a balanced budget, revenue was about 20%. we have one out of four corporations, profitable corporations not paying a nickel in taxes in america. the effective corporate tax rate today is the lowest it's been since 1972. of course republicans want to cut social security, medicare, medicaid. but i think it is time for large corporations who are not paying a nickel in taxes to start paying their fair share.

>> i want to ask you about your vote yesterday on filibuster reform. you voted no. you don't think it goes far enough. why? and is getting something done better than nothing? >> yeah, i think getting something done and making the senate a little more efficient is better than nothing. but at the end of the day, what the american people are saying is, we need to do work on jobs. we need to do work on global warming, on education, on deficit, but to do that now in the senate, majority doesn't rule. it requires 60 votes. nothing in the constitution about having to have 60 votes to pass a piece of legislation. the republicans have demanded hundreds of filibusters, brought forth hundreds of filibusters in recent years. i'm kind of old-fashioned. i think they should have all the time it needs to get up on the floor and state their case. i suspect minority rights. but the american people are hurting. they want action. we can't -- we cannot address

the major issues if we continue to need 60 votes and the legislation yesterday did not deal with that issue. >> senator bernie sanders, always good to have you on the program. thank you. >> thank you. >> ryan, he wasn't alone in voting no. a lot of people have concern about this filibuster bill, that it's so watered down, it doesn't go far enough. i mean it may help with some things like the kinds of delays in appointments that the president has complained about to things like judges. is it a step in the right direction, or is it really just an end around? >> no, it's a serious step. it will quicken the pace of legislation getting through the senate. but there was a fundamental divide here. do you want to maintain the status quo which is that everything needs 60 votes in order to move forward and the minority can block legislation by simply standing up and saying, yes, i object and then leaving the chamber. that's how the situation runs

now. that's how it will run after this. that situation gives individual senators an enormous amount of power. clearly enough of them were not willing to give that up in order to make the entire institution run a little bit better. and you can see the reasoning from their perspective. why would we give up our individual power to make the institution run better when we're just going to run into a brick wall in the house anyway. it was an uphill climb. this was never going to be a two-year or four-year process. reforming the senate will be a long-term project. and we'll see. if we have the same dysfunction the next two years that we had the last four, then we're -- then you are going to see much more momentum and the reasons to not reform the senate in a more robust way will be that much less persuasive. >> let me read a statement the president released. too often over the past four years, a single senator or a handful of senators has been

able to unilaterally block or delay bipartisan legislation for the sole purpose of making a political point. and i am hopeful that today's bipartisan agreement will pave the way for the senate to take meaningful action in the days and weeks ahead. what's your take on this, susan? is it paving the way for something important or do we have to just wait and see? >> you know, saying they've eliminated the filibuster on a motion to proceed, that may not sound like most to most americans but this is the u.s. senate. the idea they changed their filibuster rules and by overwhelming majority, i think, is a very big deal. it's the start of a process. the divide i saw in the senate yesterday was not republican versus democrat. it was older senators versus younger ones. these new senators who have been governing or come over from the house and are unwilling to put up with the old ways in the senate. i think this is the first step toward a process to make the senate more functional. >> susan page, ryan grim, thank you both. a new mexico lawmaker is under fire for proposing legislation that essentially

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big changes on president obama's economic team. he has chosen two former prosecutors as top financial regulators to keep an eye on wall street. today, tim geithner steps down as treasury secretary after four

years. now when geithner first took office in january of 2009, the u.s. lost more than 2.3 million jobs and gdp was shrinking at 5.3% annual rate. fast forward to the last quarter of 2012. more than 450,000 jobs added. the economy grew at 1.2% annually. unemployment is at a five-year low. the stock market closed yesterday at a five-year high. but what's ahead? joining me now is economic policy correspondent for "the washington post," jim tankersley. good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> let's look at what tim geithner did. took a lead on revamping the financial rules. negotiated with congressional leaders on the budget and raising the debt limit. oversaw the t.a.r.p. bailout of companies that included citigroup, general motors. a headline from "the washington post" posts, tim geithner's legacy, an unpopular bailout that helped save the economy. is he leaving a much stronger economy than he came in with?

>> well, assuredly, the economy is much better today than it was when tim geithner and barack obama first took office. i think geithner's legacy is in particular going to be linked very much with the financial system. when they came in, we were in this free-fall and the financial crisis and the great recession and geithner really was the head of the administration's efforts to stabilize things. and they did. the system stabilized. we did not have another great depression. and tim geithner gets a lot of credit for that. >> let's talk about the outlook. we talked about unemployment much better. 7.8% is still high and we just heard senator bernie sanders saying that's not accounting for people who have given up looking for work. the real unemployment rate is much higher. what's the outlook? >> the outlook is continued slow growth and sort of a slow erosion of the unemployment rate. now i'll say this for tim geithner's legacy related to the outlook. he also has this big negative of the administration's housing policies did not spur a turn

around in the housing market for several years. and because of that, which again some of that blame goes to tim geithner, because he resisted different efforts. because of their policies, we did not see a faster rebound in the market which could have led to a faster rebound in the job market which now we're seeing housing help lead the strength that we have. >> and you also have things going on in washington and we don't know how they'll affect the economy. things like the debt limit and the budget. >> what are the big questions facing jack lew. >> those are the challenges jack lew is being brought on hand to handle. he's not necessarily going to be playing the kind of role at least right away in europe that geithner did trying to help them stabilize their financial system. jack lew is coming in to be a negotiator, to work with congress to try to solve these budget problems and keep them from dragging down the economy. >> and president obama named two financial regulators. mary jo white is going to run

the securities and exchange commission. richard cordray was renominated as head of the consumer protection bureau. how is wall street feeling and what kind of message is the president sending? >> it's unclear that wall street's reacting really to that message. and i think we're going to have to see, particularly with cordray, this is really about whether republicans in the senate are willing to let anyone head the consumer financial protection bureau. we will see. it didn't work last time. we'll see if it happens this time. if it appears they let him through then it will be interesting to see how wall street reacts. >> jim tankersley, thanks. a step toward legalizing gay marriage in rhode island. on thursday, the state's house of representatives passed gay marriage by a wide margin. the bill now moves on to the senate, although passage there is not certain. every same-sex bill introduced there since 1997 has been defeated. but nine states and the district of columbia have legalized it. ♪

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to politics now where republicans in virginia and a few other battleground states are trying to change the electoral college. if they succeed, it could help republicans win the presidency. most states give the candidate who wins all of their electoral votes. but this republican plan would divvy them up by congressional district and would have made the 2012 race a lot closer. mitt romney, by the way is in washington today for a reception hosted by two of his top donors. his wife ann will join him. romney didn't go to the inauguration the first losing nominee to skip it since michael dukakis. former colorado congressman tom tancredo will honor a bet and smoke pot. he promised in colorado legalized marijuana, he would partake. he bet a documentary filmmaker the measure would not pass. organizing for action. that's president obama's new

grassroots group, is trying to cuddle up to george soros. politico reports organizing for action is reaching out to soros and companies like lockheed martin, citi and duke energy for cash. did you catch the president trying to fend off a fly yesterday? >> consumer financial protection bureau this guy is bothering me. where is the secret service when you need them? the insect pestered the commander in chief while he was nominating a new head of the s.e.c. that picture caused quite a buzz yesterday. everybody is ca critic. tom brady may be watching the super bowl from home this year, but, oh, what a home it is. the detroit free press did a flyover of brady's new $20 million mansion and it has a moat. fit for a 20,000-square-foot

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what's in your wallet? today the head of the republican party will outline its plan to lead the gop out of the wilderness. the new battle plan from soon to be re-elected rnc chairman reince priebus comes a day after louisiana governor bobby jindal gave a fiery call to arms speech at the rnc's winter meeting in charlotte. >> we've got to stop being the stupid party. i'm serious. it's time for a new republican party that talks like adults. it's time for us to articulate our plans and visions for america in real terms. it's no secret we had a number of republicans that damaged the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. i'm here to say we've had enough of that. >> let's bring in john braybender and nbc political analyst and former pennsylvania governor ed rendell. good morning, guys. >> good morning. >> morning. >> so, john, the stupid party,

is bobby jindal right? >> i think we've made a lot of mistakes. the first thing is to understand we did make those mistakes. the biggest problem i have that we have to work on is that the average american and hard-working and lunch bucket americans don't feel we represent and fight for them anymore. the president did something very clear when he wanted to raise tax breaks or get rid of tax breaks for the wealthy in that he forced the republicans to fight for the wealthy and the average american said we no longer understand them. if we're going to really change and do better on election day and particularly get the white house back, we better get average americans to think we're fighting for them every day not just a small group of americans. >> bobby jindal offered a few details on how to, quote, stop being the stupid party. he did also say this. >> today's conservatism is completely wrapped up in solving the hideous mess that is the federal budget. the deficits, the mammoth federal death and the shortfall on our entitlement programs.

we have an obsession with government book gaming. it's a rigged game and the wrong game for us to play. no, the republican party does not need to change our principles but we might need to change just about everything else we are doing. >> listening to bobby jindal and listening to what john just had to say is this largely a messaging problem? >> no, it isn't. stupid is not as stupid says. stupid is as stupid does. and as long as the republican party caters to the far right, to the tea party, whatever you want to call it, they are never going to change. i mean, you would have thought they would have learned the lessons of the last election but shortly thereafter, northern states, like ohio, put in essentially a personhood amendment. that was voted down by the voters of mississippi, one of the most conservative states in the country. they don't seem to be able to learn that if that's going to be the voice of the republican party, if they are going to drive issue and substance, then it's going to be a minority party forever because stupid is

as stupid does. >> part of the criticism, john, has been that there is a negativity about a lot of the way that -- a lot of the republican positions. newt gingrich told republicans in charlotte the gop needs to learn how to be a happy party. >> i think there's some truth to that. i think we've been a good critic and not a good problem solver. we should be leading on this and bringing accountability. parents are consumers. they don't feel they are getting their money's worth and we're not fighting for them on that. same with manufacturing. we're seeing it go and disappear in this country instead of the ones fighting for this. so i agree. if we're just going to be the party that criticizes the president we're going to stay the minority party. >> politico has what they say is reince priebus' plan. i want to read what they quoted from it. we must compete in every state and every region, building relationships with communities we haven't before. we must develop the best technology with the help of the best minds and train activists, volunteers and candidates with the modern tools of a modern

party. we can stand by our timeless principles and articulate them in ways that are modern, relevant to our time and relatable to a majority of voters. you know, democrats have been down. they seem to be up now, governor. would it be wise not to get too cocky which republicans already think the president is. >> no question about it. i mean, we now have the burden of problem solving. and the president has to lead us. and we've got to get answers to the questions that are out there. and they are very important questions. we've got to do something about the debt, permanently. we have to do something about immigration. we've got to pass sensible gun legislation. we've got to find some way to finance repairing our infrastructure. it's literally crumbling as we sit here. energy. we need an energy -- american energy independence bill so the burden is on us to govern. and to that end, i think we've got to be more gracious winners. i was shocked -- chuck schumer who i have tremendous admiration for, when the republicans

extended the debt limit, he acted as if they folded under pressure and claimed it was the second great victory for the president, et cetera. and maybe that's so, but be gracious winners and say, look. what they did was important for the country, not screw around with the debt ceiling. and let's sit down and try to solve our long-term problems. that's the attitude we should be taking. we shouldn't rub anybody's face in the sand because things change. >> governor ed rendell, john braybender, more to come. always good to see you. also making news, despite calls for calm, hundreds prove testers have been clashing with police in cairo in a violent start to the second anniversary of the uprigss that tloed ouster of hosni mubarak. the protesters are unhappy with the progress that's been made since the revolution. and this shines a light on the ongoing divide between islamists and their secular opponents. a new threat from north korea. pyongyang threatened to attack south korea if seoul joins in a

new round of united nations sanctions. north korea calls the sanctions, quote, a declaration of war. and as if the flu season wasn't enough to worry about, a new strain of the norovirus stomach bug is sweeping through the u.s. and it's nasty with gut-wrenching effects that experts say can be even harder to fight off than the flu. it's also easily spread through touching a contaminated surface or eating food handled by an infected person. sports for disabled students is the focus of a sweeping now policy. the department of education is ordering schools to include disabled students in existing sports programs or create equal alternative options. we're hearing now from the fake girlfriend in the manti te'o hoax. these are some of the phone messages left by the phony girlfriend whose story was that she's battling leukemia and was getting chemo. >> hi. i'm just letting you know i got here and i'm getting ready for my first session.

and just want to call you to keep you posted. i miss you. i love you. bye. >> in her interview with te'o that aired yesterday, katie couric asked him why he never became suspicious, especially during video chats. >> you attempted a few times to talk with her through facetime and you would see basically what, a black box and she would say to you, i can see you. i don't know why you can't see me. >> correct. >> didn't you think that was a little weird. >> to be honest, no. >> no? >> i didn't. >> are you that technologically challenged? i am but someone your age shouldn't be, right? >> i saw a black screen and she says, i can see you and i can see me. you should be able to see me. i don't know what's wrong with your camera. >> so who was that person on the phone? some reports say the accused architect of the hoax who is a man used his cousin to lay the part of a girlfriend for the

conversation. and are you getting all the sleep you need? well, me neither. a new study reveals the economic damage lack of sleep is having on business. still ahead this morning, the steps some companies are taking to make sure workers get enough shut eye. fans are crying foul. now that a super bowl staple will be the most expensive ever this year. we're all full of puns this morning on "jansing & co." michelle caruso-cabrera is here. a jump in prices? >> because of ethanol. so ethanol is a corn product that the government mandates has to go into gasoline. because of that mandate, 40% of the nation's corn crop isn't going into the food chain. it's going into our cars. well, guess what. corn is what you feed to chickens. and so the cost of that corn has gone through the roof. it's at an all-time high. that's pushing the cost of chicken higher as well. that's why you'll be paying more for your chicken wings on this super bowl. >> but maybe less for the tv you

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a new drug in development may be able to improve movement in people with spinal cord injuries. the drug works to prevent the death of cells around nerves damaged to injury instead of trying to regenerate new cells. mice in the study showed a significant improvement over a six-week trial. hillary clinton will be sitting down with president obama today for their first ever joint interview, which is scheduled to air on sunday. who would have thought that four years ago. they have been four successful years for her. now she's getting ready to step down as secretary of state. >> we're all getting a little emotional and sentimental around here with about a little over a week to go in my tenure. >> secretary clinton made those remarks during the launch of a non-profit organization yesterday capping off a busy but contentious week.

you couldn't help but notice during her grueling day of questions on capitol hill wednesday how savvy she was, deferential to some senators, combative with others, perhaps with an eye on 2016. joining me now is white house managing editor for "national journal," matthew cooper. good to see you. good morning. >> thanks, chris. >> first, let me ask you about the clinton/obama "60 minutes" interview. it will be not only the first joint interview but the first sit-down tv interview the president has given with anyone but michelle obama. so how big a deal is this and what should we be looking for, do you think? >> i think you want to look at the body language between them. i think they've developed a great working relationship after battling each other in the 2008 campaign. you look for them to project a strong message to the world, especially iran, north korea. and other perceived threats around the globe. >> you know they'll ask him, would you vote for him in 2016. so that's a question i'm waiting

for. let's talk about secretary clinton's testimony on benghazi. you write this would be her last scandal with scandal in quotation marks. talk about that, matthew. >> well, you know, ever since she and bill clinton got to washington in 1993, there's been one scandal, in quotation marks, after another, most of which have proven to be not really scandalous at all. there was, you know, the suicide of her friend and former law partner vince foster who was the white house counsel. big investigation into whether anything nefarious happened there. turned out nothing but his very sad depression. you know, whitewater. lots of other things, you know, just didn't really pan out in a way that stopped her from going on to be elected. twice as a u.s. senator from new york and from a -- nearly getting the democratic nomination in 2008 and being secretary of state. so my point in the piece in the national journal was if you keep crying wolf essentially about

someone, it's very hard for the, you know, 39th time you do it for it to stick. >> not only that but she's obviously gotten very practiced at how to deal with these kinds of situations. although she did become emotional when talking about those killed in the benghazi consulate, including ambassador stevens. let me play that. >> for me, this is not just a matter of policy. it's personal. i stood next to president obama as the marines carried those flag-draped caskets off the plane at andrews. i put my arms around the mothers and fathers, the sisters and brothers, the sons and daughters and the wives left alone to raise their children. >> and then senator ron johnson who she had a fiery exchange with later suggested maybe she faked her emotion to avoid answering his questions. just as some suggested she was faking her illness when she actually ended up in the hospital. is this sort of anti-hillary 2016 already under way?

>> well, i don't know if it's 2016, but it's certainly anti-hillary. i don't know if we can behoove the republicans well to go down that particular road. they never really got a good narrative line on the benghazi tragedy. at first they kind of suggested the administration covered up the origins of the tragedy in order to somehow help them in the election. that always had odd lodgic to me. normally an attack on americans might actually help the incumbent party. be that as it may, then their argument morphed into incompetence. they never had an argument they were driving towards yesterday and, thus, for that reason and many others, especially secretary clinton appointing a blue ribbon panel to investigate the tragedy in benghazi, she came out pretty well. >> and let me ask you finally because we're all looking ahead to see will she or won't she in 2016. how have these last four years, not just changed her, but

changed the kind of candidate she would be and her prospects for winning this time around? >> well, i think it's all -- only enhanced a blue chip resume. i mean, the two, you know elections from new york for senate capped a very long run and unique path breaking run as first lady. i think she's gotten wide praise for her helm at the state department. so it's really raised her from being a big national figure to truly global figure. and so if she decides close to age 70 that she wants to run, she'll obviously be a very formidable candidate. >> you want to place bets? what do you think the chances are? >> i am going to lean slightly against only that i don't think you can underestimate the kind of level of exhaustion of going from campaigns and campaigns and campaigns since 1992.

it's -- traveling a million miles in your 60s for secretary of state. it's just a guess. i think there's a chance she won't do it. >> matthew cooper, good to see you. thanks, matt. >> thanks, chris. today's tweet of the day comes from lolgop who writes, fun fact. hillary clinton's approval rating is literally that the republicans in congress. need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in his lower back. as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today, jason chose aleve. just two pills for all day pain relief. try aleve d for strong, all day long sinus and headache relief.

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we are going to take a live look at tahrir square. it's 5:50 p.m. in cairo. protests continue to heat up. protesters have been clashing with police on this second anniversary of the revolt that toppled hosni mubarak. earlier today, these conflicts turned violent. some tear gas used. we're keeping our eye on tahrir square in cairo. also developing news in the political world here in the states. republican officials tell nbc news that two-term senator saxby chambliss will not run for re-election in 2014. he's the top gop senator on the intelligence committee. was widely expected to be

primaried. today just after noon, president obama is expected to announce his next chief of staff will be dennis mcdonough. he's seen as a top foreign policy adviser to the president. he would be obama's fifth chief of staff. all right. feeling a little drowsy this morning? you're in good company. new research from harvard medical school finds about one-third of all workers just aren't getting enough sleep to work at peak efficiency. and that's costing u.s. companies more than $63 billion a year in lost productivity. richard lui is here with a drill down on third pun of the day, an eye-opening report. >> it is. and this is a sign of the times. >> i'm sorry. it's friday. >> not the puns but this. sleep pods are not a common sight at most businesses. with the cost of sleepy workers rising, the metro nap energy pod is becoming more popular. and devices like that. google has $13,000 lounges like that on its campus.

now others are investing in sleep programs according to "the wall street journal." shuteye shortage has hit our capital, too. vice president biden had a 30-second blink during an obama speech while tim geithner fought the long blink with rapid fire right next to him. secretary of state hillary clinton had heavy eyelids during president obama's myanmar speech and john mccain snuck in a couple of winks during george w. bush's state of the union in 2007. a sleepless night is getting more common. a full 30% of civilian workers get less than six hours of sleep, says the cdc. the night shift is the worst. for instance, 70% of night shift workers and transportation and warehousing are sleep deprived. the best sleep? the finance industry along with educators at 27%. they don't take their laptops and phones to bed. the glow can simulate daylight and simulate sleep. with the 24-hour global economy it's tough to get unplugged. so businesses like pod time are seeing orders rise for stacked

sleeping pods, stereos that help you get in the mood and racks for bedtime reading torl put away your laptop as well. insomniac classes are on the increase as well. late night yoga and meditation and they say bring your pajamas. and sleeping pill ads are everywhere. americans are doing just about anything and anywhere to grab some zs. and in fact, chris, you are probably wondering where i am right now. >> i wasn't actually, but -- >> where are you? >> i ran off. i got up at 2:00 in the morning. i'm becoming one of the 27 million that are likely to fall asleep, chris, at an inappropriate time. >> i have a feeling that's going to be now. >> yeah, good night. see you later. >> he's earned that. he does get up at 2:00 a.m. >> i feel bad because i get up at 4:00, 4:15. downright sleeping in. that wraps up this hour of "jansing & co." thomas roberts is up next.

>> where did they give out the beauty mask. i want one of those. ear plugs, a beauty mask. we all need them around here. but that's very interesting. i'm going to check out how richard got that. thanks. hi, everybody. the ark genda next hour, vice president joe biden outon front of guns. we're going to cover that. plus, stupid is as stupid does. republican governor of louisiana bobby jindal serves his party a cold dish of reality at the rnc winter convention in charlotte when he said we've got to stop being the stupid party. so if the first step for republicans is admitting they have a problem, what's the fix? my power panel weighs in on that. and ed schultz will be here, too. the war on women back in the headlines after one lawmaker wants to make impregnated victim carry the baby to term to prove the dna matches that of the rapist. and then hear from the courageous teen who came out of the closet in front of his whole high school. why the new jersey senior felt empowered to be so honest. where do you hear that beat?

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